Where did cordelia go in season 3 of angel She For sure. It also trashed Cordelia Chase Go to ANGEL r/ANGEL. Season 3. As far as I know, Charisma had decided to leave the show at the end of Cordelia broke the rules in The House Always Wins by helping Angel win the jackpot and therefore got booted out of heaven because TPTB arent supposed to interfere like that. I do feel like she should have Interestingly, her being absent from Season 5 actually drives a lot of the final season. Gwen's initial connection with Angel is later used to disprove Gunn's insecurities when he is the one she chooses later in the season . Never was a fan of the romance angle between Angel and Cordelia. Her character did not revolve around Angel. I kept an ear open all through the season to see if there was any mention of her and I In my first run through I watched both shows chronologically so I didn’t miss Cordy till Angel season 5 (part-way through season 4 if we’re being honest). In fact Wesley doing what he did couldn't have been what led to Angel killing Conor. She play • David Boreanaz as Angel • Charisma Carpenter as Cordelia Chase • Alexis Denisof as Wesley Wyndam-Pryce • J. It wasn’t as warm and effervescent as she is Here you will find a thread for discussing each Season 3 episode. Cordelia is not laugh at Angel's puppet form. One of the best spin-offs ever made. She slept with Angel's son Connor and gave Cordelia Chase had various relationships over the years. Possesed Cordelia thing and One thing I have always criticized season 3 is how they had nothing for Cordelia's character at all. I’ve heard Jane Espenson say they realised in s4 that a Cordelia like character was really Posted by u/precita - 30 votes and 34 comments Right, she should have been about 18-19 in Angel S1 (Buffy's freshman year). I mean for pete's After that episode her powers changed on an episode-to-episode basis and she was defined mostly by her relationships with the Groosalugg and Angel - to the point that afer So how old is Cordelia supposed to be in Angel I mean Season 3 has them finishing high school, by most standards she'd be 18, perhaps 19 if started late or held behind at some point. Share Add a Comment. Even as Angel mourns the death of Buffy, Darla makes her way to L. Sort by: It feels like the scene was filmed back in season 3 and Angel only appeared because it was the Buffy So I begged, half way into season two, for them to let me cut my hair. Cordelia is the true one for Angel. I hated everything they did to Cordy in season 4, but I loved Cordy in angel s1-3. Some might say it’s even better than Buffy, but I won’t even go there. Another thing is that this whole on off Actually considering the limited amount of screen time she gotFaith. I don't blame Buffy and I think I probably would've made a similar decision, but if I were Cordelia I'd be absolutely gutted. They even took Angel's Shanshu as And I have no hate towards Buffy/Angel as a couple I just thought Cordy/Angel work better. Certainly Angel fandom was up in arms about Cordelia that year and not in a I think Anya only becomes irreplaceable after Season 5, so they likely would have shuffled her off. He was showrunning Angel, "Waiting in the Wings" is the thirteenth episode of the third season of Angel and the fifty-seventh episode in the series. Do you think Charisma saved Cordelia Welcome, fellow Buffy fans! This community is dedicated to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Although now Joss’s legacy has stained my favorite tv show thus staining my childhood the writing and character building was thought out and The second season of Angel originally aired on The WB from September 26, 2000 to May 22, 2001, concurrently with the fifth season Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Sort by: no, I'm sure it did. Go to ANGEL r/ANGEL. I dislike season 4 because of Joss did really wronged Cordelia and Connor too. . It makes Angel as a Season 2: Angel or Cordelia Season 3: Angel Season 4: Wesley Season 5: Angel Reply reply Almighty_Push91 • Exactly this Reply reply sdu754 • I felt that season 1 was Cordelia's worst Bruh same, Cordelia deserved better. Reply reply More replies More replies. Cordelia's visit was successful. I just did not like their romance, but loved It's by Season 3 that they really ramp up the subtext - when Connor arrives, it's Cordelia who acts as his mother moreso than anyone else, and it's Cordelia who's Angel's closest friend and the Buffy forcing Angel to drink her so he could be cured in Graduation Day, Part 2 is far more powerful than any scene of Cordelia and Angel beyond season 2 of Angel. It was Spike with Angel and a side of the other characters who helped build AtS. IIRC Charisma was required to wear extensions for ATS season 1, and then she requested to be allowed to cut her hair for season 2. I'd say it As far as I could tell, Cordelia had options in the dating world. The first time I saw it just chalked it up to poor writing Angel goes off the rails after season 3 it’s honestly hard to rewatch seasons 4 and 5 I made a rewatch after a while and I realized I did miss a good part of Season 3 and 4 when I watched it ETA - season 3 was a lot about fatal flaws, Cordelia being arrogant and thinking she’s above everyone else, thinking she’s the main character, and Wesley being sneaky and betraying his Cordelia is closest thing to Connor he have as mom after he lost his biological mother Darla died sacrifice herself for him when he was born on November 19th, 2001. That season Cordelia wasn't herself, she had been taken over by jasmine. Threads 22 Messages 367. He didn't care about the pain cordelia went through like he did before from when she gained a vision. The whole reason he leaves Sunnydale and goes to LA is because he Go to ANGEL r/ANGEL. At least up until season 3. Cordelia was the There’s not a single connection to seasons 1-3 Cordelia and her becoming the big bad in season 4. Everything they did with Cordelia in this season was just wrong - starting with bringing her back at all. 11 "Birthday" - Aired 1/14/2002 It makes sense to me that Cordelia falls in love with Angel, and vice versa, because they need that faith in each other to survive and keep fighting. I think there are platonic Go to ANGEL r/ANGEL. Back So I'm rewatching Season 3 at the moment and the part where the romance between Angel and Cordelia is developing. I watched Angel before Buffy so I only ever got the leftovers of her mean girl role on Buffy, but Cordelia doesn’t lose much of that At the end of S2’s Pylea arc, Cordelia had left behind a material image. I know Cordelia permanently leaves the show eventually, but what's with the random gap in the middle of season 3? Where'd she go? I've was Cordelia written out of the episodes in season 3 purely for story-telling reasons? She's not in episode 15 - 17 and I am just curious if anyone remembers if it might have also been because This brings us to season 3, where Cordelia's character began to slowly derail - but it was only clear in retrospect that the problems began there. Cordy getting visions and becoming half-demon are all about her growing more empathetic and self Cordelia cannot avert an apocalypse the same way Buffy and Angel can because she literally physically isn’t able to. They did and then it was darker and they didn’t like that dark edge for Cordelia. She probably It goes like this: Angel and Cordelia could've been together had she lived without risking him reaching "perfect happiness" and risking the turn to Angelus because there would've always Go to buffy r/buffy. Originally, she was supposed to die in the season finally fighting against Angel. Fanworks pairing Cordelia and Angel did exist Angel (1999–2004) was an American TV show, created by Joss Whedon and David Greenwalt and airing on The WB, about the ongoing trials of Angel, a vampire whose human Did Angel love Cordelia as much as he loved Buddy? Share Add a Comment. Written and directed by Joss Whedon, it was originally broadcast on Audience Member Incredibly ambitious, Season 3 of Angel sets out to prove itself as Buffy moves to a new network, cutting all ties. I think a reason why some don’t Cordelia & Angel were supposed to get together in season 3 but the negative reaction from the fans caused them to change that character relationship arc and they went a Season 5 is Angel's lowest point, where he sold out to the very organization that has been trying to corrupt him from day one, holding on solely to the belief that they could make that Welcome to r/Degrassi! Home of all things relating to the Degrassi franchise past, present and future! It has spanned five series since 1979, most notably Degrassi Junior High, Degrassi Go to ANGEL r/ANGEL. Some will say Wesley but i go with Cordy solely because If Cordelia didn't fall in with Angel and think she was doing good work there I would not be surprised if she went to college a year late. Season 1 Angel considered himself When her memories are restored Jasmine takes over. Also, Drusilla is They obviously loved each other very much, it was just the attraction component that was in doubt, and I did feel by the end of Season 3 that actually yes, they would make a Cordelia went through a lot of hair changes over the years. And as he says himself "I'm lost without you". Yes, Skip was I always liked her character (outside of her Angel Season 4 arc) but never loved her character. And I wish I actually think Cordelia was ruined in season 3, when she came back from her vacation with Groo. Cordelia’s character development is the best played out. She just stopped existing. Then when Wesley comes over to Angel, their attraction toward The season will need to address the Cordelia/Angel stuff: maybe a brief love triangle with Nina but Cordy and Angel decide to take the high road, knowing their relationship could never really Cordy becomes half demon in season 3 in order to be a good enough vessel for Jasmine. Reply reply The shows go a long way to i could've sworn there was a brief period of time in angel during cordelia's ever-changing-hairstyles where she also had tiny bangs, but i can't find evidence of it anywhere and googling Given the reception to how that storyline unfolded and the impact it had on Charisma, imma go with no. ) but I also really liked The third season of Angel originally aired on The WB from September 24, 2001 to May 20, 2002, earlier than the sixth season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I went though high school, so did a lot of other people; we also went through puberty. r/ANGEL. And then when he Over all I think season 5 would feel more like Angel, which it didn't to me. Gunn and Fred refer Watching Angel for the first time right now. The kiss with Fred was stupid but plot wise was there to I noticed at the beginning of season 4, there was no mention of Cordelia. Alternative S4. Written by Mere Smith and directed by Michael Grossman, it was originally The fourth season of the television series Angel, the spin-off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, premiered on October 6, 2002, on The WB and concluded its 22-episode season on May 7, Cordelia was there as an astral version of herself that was corporeal. And only around 22 at the time of her pregnancy/coma, 23 at her death. Cordy was going to come back evil and Angel was going to kill her in S4. Canon Fandom. Similarly, Cordelia discussed Spike with the Scooby Gang and was under Cordy in Angel is really the only reason I intensely love Cordelia. IMO. Cordelia, in a nutshell, was the embodiment of who Buffy was before becoming the Slayer, and became the Cordelia asks Angel for the favor of escorting Groo to a demon brothel where a magic potion is held which will allow her to have sex with Groo without losing her visions. Ignorant of the supernatural, Cordelia shows up regularly throughout the first season of Buffy to insult and ridicule the other characters. The entire gang is seduced by W&H; however, they pretend like they are doing good. Cordelia is still, w ell Cordelia and has been divorced 4 times, and yet, despite all that plus her past involvements with Angel, Xander, and 6. " Disagree. Wes had reasons for not telling Angel, and he was actively avoiding Fred and Gunn at the time, but there was no reason for him not to tell Cordelia other than the fact that she wasn't there. The levitating, glowing white and her demon power Then by Season 2 of Angel, Cordelia is treated more like the real-life age of Charisma Carpenter, who was in her early/mid 30's at the time. Cordy had an amazing evolution from the So after binge-watching Buffy, I then went to Angel, all was going well until I got to season 4, It was odd, I recalled it being rather crap, but the first 3 seasons were really enjoyable, then Highly disagree that Cordelia’s character arc is forced in Angel. Though I do wish they started planting seeds a little earlier. He didn't care about saving In Season 3 of Buffy, Wesley was attracted to Cordelia immediately and vice versa, they dance at the prom together and kissed. ” ETA: I hate that Cordelia's storyline is so often overlooked really based on the 4th season. Very early on in Buffy, Buffy gets jealous of Angel Cordy was funny in Buffy, but in angel her character could truly develop. If they had done season 4 exactly the same but then brought Cordelia back in the final season, let her and Angel get Cordelia. Season 3 Episode 14: Directed by: Tim Minear: Written by: Wesley assigns the job to Gunn, but Fred tags along too, much to Wesley's dismay. 16 votes, 66 comments. I wish Cordelia still alive in Angel season 5. So for most of Angel, Cordelia is treated like she's in I did a marathon run of Buffy and Angel. It renewed Angel's fighting spirit and gave him the push he needed to become a I'll never forget how Cordelia Chase, the beauty queen with the backbone, the most independent, ambitious woman in the entire run of Angel, was destroyed. Tim Minear said in the past that they hated that storyline Angel gets a phone call, informing him that Cordelia died without ever having awoken from her coma. This inspires me to write my own post, so to keep it short: have Cordelia ditch ascension to be with the group, CC’s pregnancy is written in as a happy I wish they came up with a better excuse to have Cordelia go to Angel than to have Xander and Willow cheat together. r/ANGEL [deleted] ADMIN MOD Cordelia in season 4. I really enjoyed them as friends and just sighed and shook my head when the The coma thing was such a dumb thing to do a popular and long-running character such as Cordelia. David Greenwalt and Tim Minear would have never agreed or let that happen to Cordelia, The third season of the television series Angel, the spin-off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, premiered on September 24, 2001, on The WB and concluded its 22-episode season on May 20, 2002. But the person you replied to is right imo - The Angel cast reunited at New York Comic Con on Saturday for the show's 20th anniversary, where Charisma Carpenter spoke out on Cordelia's controversial death. "Joss has bandied about, 'I So I begged, half way into season two, for them to let me cut it . Season four It seems incredibly out of character for Cordy to go from her high school self to how she developed in the first 3 seasons of Angel to coming back to want to destroy Angel himself Spike spent time in season two spying on Buffy and her friends, so he would have been able to identify any of them. I know she grew immensely from Buffy Season 1-3 and was the heart of Team Angel but I never had the vested interest in her character like I What I don't like is Cordelia dying! I wanted her back in season 5. Written by Mere Smith and directed by Michael Grossman, it was originally broadcast on Charisma Carpenter shades Angel season 4 as problematic in a Tweet. Reply reply Cordelia Chase first appears in the premiere episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, titled "Welcome to the Hellmouth". And Season 5. Written and directed by David Fury, it is the 100th episode of the series, and originally What the writers did to Cordelia Chase is one the worst character assassinations I’ve seen in television. I love both and I think Assuming Cordelia is 18 or 19 when she is introduced in City of Angels (ANGEL, Season 1, Episode 1), she would be 23-24 by the time of her last appearance in You're Welcome To be honest I’ve always thought this is a bit of a myth anyway. I've literally Cordelia's undoing kinda starts in season 3 already, when they make her too saintly and she ascends to become a higher being. It made sense for the last few episodes of season 4 to accommodate Charisma's He needed to kill them before they massacred the entire city they were more important matters than Cordelia's visions about a kid worshipping a demon and killing himself. 10 votes, 15 comments. One she ascends in season 3 finale, Jasmine hops into Cordy and returns with her back to earth in First off, Birthday is in Angel Season 3, and a few episodes after that the prophecy about Connor comes up and Angel utterly dismisses the idea that he can ever hurt Connor. Even as Angel mourns the death of If prophecies are real and will definitely happen then Wesley couldn't have protected the child anyway. Most girls her age would go after I have come across, on this site and some others, a lot of negative reaction to Cordelia is Angel season 3 and I don't agree with it. r/buffy. Season 2. 7. Angel episode: Episode no. Cordelia is still broke of course but she’s with Xander "You're Welcome" is the twelfth episode of the fifth season of the American television series Angel. It’s amazing. If you haven't watched through the entirety of both "Buffy" and "Angel," there will most likely be a lot Cordelia Chase on Angel Season 4 or Giles in Buffy Season 7 Share Sort by: Best as he exhibited the same behaviors he did in season 3. Only two people part of Why did Cordelia (Charisma Carpenter) leave buffy in season 3? Was it because she was pregnant or she was planned to move to season 1 of Angel? Skip to main content. The star is also Love the mention of his sister here. In Angel Season 3, Cordelia tells Angel that she missed Buffy as well. Fred is the one I’d say is the bigger ‘mother figure’ in his life, she’s the one that’s there when he’s born, she’s the one that’s I love Cordelia and Angel as best friends in the first season but the romance in season 3 never made sense to me. She didn't seem the type who would like needy guys. That death does go away quietly without much trauma or grief reflected in Gunn. As Joss create very inappropriate weird relationship "Redefinition" is the eleventh episode of the second season of Angel and the thirty-third episode in the series. You could make the argument that the Season 4 story really begins with "Sleep Tight" in In terms of Angels main cast there aren’t many I dislike, I just dislike the general direction of late season 3 and 4. Meaning she could interact with her environment and be seen while still being a spirit separated from her body. Cordelia is 21-22 by season 4, since she’s 18-19 in season 1. I'm pretty sure Wesley would have gone to Cordelia about the prophecy and ask her how they should procced and Cordy being Cordy would have gone straight to Angel. Cordelia stopped Posted by u/jdpm1991 - 9 votes and 9 comments Season 4 has a very high opening and kinda tails off as the season goes along. true. When Darla turns up pregnant with Angel's child the team Remember the episode where he almost ripped the producer's head off just because he insulted Cordelia's body (he also looked embarrassed which wasn't the case before) and the last If Joss Whedon hadn’t did what he did to Cordelia in the 4th Season of Angel, I would love for Cordelia be there for Buffy after she was kicked out in “Empty Places” she would have put If that not the reason then why did he go after Cordelia like he did . Angel continues to seek After the Willow and Xander affair in season 3, ill always respect that Cordelia went after Xander with her snide remarks as well she didn't just taunt Willow. I hate that Spike ‘gets a soul’ and the whole Spuffy thing. Agreed 2 and 4. Again, Cordelia was the mean girl in Buffy, we were not supposed to really like her. Lilah did say in the Season 4 finale that Fury also confirmed what many suspected: The death of Doyle (Glenn Quinn) on "Buffy" spin-off "Angel" last season was not planned from the start of the series. Cordelia seen it as an improvement of herself, that is why she did it. Like if there was an apocalypse, Angel would trust that Buffy could "Birthday" is the eleventh episode of the third season of the American television series Angel. Reply Haha yes there is a ‘saint Cordelia’ feel to late season 3. r/ANGEL I'd like to know why we all generally agree that season 4 of Angel was character-destroying for Cordelia with her sleeping with Connor ect. Basically after Not Fade Away, LA was Because we are given no context for this in season 3 it goes on to undermine storylines in season 4. To be honest, Joss was almost definitely burnt out. Open menu Part of it is definitely due to the Cordelia's character being absolutely butchered in Angel (being possessed and then hooking up with connor and then dying etc. And just in case people say he didn't he could told Cordelia to stop things but he never did . August Richards as Charles Gunn In her sophomore year, Cordelia immediately befriended Buffy Summers, a new girl who transferred from Los Angeles. I just didn't buy that Cordelia wouldn't even once visit Wesley and try to atleast hear his Hello! I am a first time watcher of Angel, after having watched Buffy over the summer and LOVING IT! I recently watched the season 4 episode Awakening, in which Angel fantasizes With the Faith thing, you're making an assumption just as you did with Cordelia. A. She is a victim of that poor Xander and Willow cheating storyline that only exists to break her Angel/Cordelia is the het pairing between Cordelia Chase and vampire-with-a-soul Angel in the Buffyverse. It isn't until Cordelia Point of clarification: I thought (maybe mistakenly) that "Saint Cordelia" was in reference to Cordelia between Birthday and Tomorrow (second half of Season 3) rather than Season 4, . She was an important part of Angel's journey of Back in 2003, Joss seemingly wrote off Charisma Carpenter’s character (Cordelia Chase) from Angel because he was upset that she was pregnant. He just wasn't aware of it until season 3 . If you rewatch the season, Amnesia!Cordy still has her Cordelia wit, but when the memories are restored she immediately shuts down Charisma Carpenter is a 50-year-old American actress who played the role of Cordelia Chase in Buffy The Vampire Slayer for the first three seasons, and the series is now on All4. with a mysterious new life growing within her. Wesley and Angel It was the plan to get rid of Cordelia going into season four of Angel. Welcome Angel fans! Here we gush about Joss Whedon's spinoff from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Sure! After the Fall is kinda like Angel Season 6, in which ideas for the planned S6 (before the show got cancelled) got repurposed into the comics. It was in the episode "Shroud of Rahmon" from season 2 was when Cordelia's character started to have writing problems for Angel is not cheating on Cordelia with another woman. The actress told her side of the story It’s good writing and there was a reason for it. She didn't seem to have a lot of patience when it came to insecure guys. Introduced as a potential friend for Sunnydale High's newest student, Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar), Cordelia reveals her true colors by cruelly mocking Willow (Alyson Hannigan) whom Buffy befriends instead. Angel is lost without her : One of the reasons Angel season 5 is so weird is because Cordelia wasn't by Angel's side like all the time. Season 4 turned Cordelia into a villain The romance between her and Angel just did not make sense. There was People who never watched Angel, please do it. Now thrust into a role he never imagined, Angel needs Allegedly the originally plan for Cordelia in the fourth season was that she would have been corrupted by power and ego after being a Higher Power in season 3 and would have gone evil When Angel returned to Sunnydale, season 4 of angel was finished. When she applied she was wealthy. They kept her in a coma just in case, but I just never got why they brought her back. Like, she's finally really committing to/comfortable in her That's one of the fairy tale aspects of my 2026 fics. They gave her a great ending in season 3, and then they brought her back in season 4, and really inconveniently had to write the arc around her Angel and Cordy did not become friends until season 3 but Angel's interest in Cordy starts in season 1. The shallow, narcissistic girl of Sunnydale’s 1999 graduating year had become an adult by realizing I forgot they had spent as much time together before Angel, but it's fun watching that relationship develop, especially since the first 3 seasons of Angel made Cordelia one of the best characters in the entire Buffy verse. It wasn’t as warm and effervescent as Cordelia, Season 3 For as detailed as the Buffyverse is, for the wealth of its mythology and lore - I cant flippin' believe they never actually said what TYPE of (part) demon Cordelia became. I would have rather had cordy killed of that that storyline it was just creepy. I also agree actually about the friendship breaking down. It took our beloved queen bee and ruined what was some of the best character True to Veronica Mars' form, by the end of the season, Kendall's true identity is exposed with an assist from Veronica's dad Keith, and the character meets a violent end in the Season 1. Now thrust into a role he never imagined, Angel needs The pure lack of remorse the lack of care for anything else. In the role of Cordelia Chase, which she originated on Buffy the Vampire Slayer for three seasons, before moving to the spinoff Angel, Carpenter Do you think Charisma being pregnant in season 4, saved Cordelia's character? the original plan for Cordy in s4 was to be evil but willingly. I actually loved her shoulder length Today marks the 20th anniversary of Angel's series premiere, and as the show slowly-but-surely worked its way out of Buffy's shadow it went on to enjoy a five-season run Angel had a rough fourth season, a stellar final season, and it gave us a chance to see some of our favorite characters take on another life. Neither one is an They go over this in Angel, but everyone just rationalizes the supernatural shit. Discussion of 3. Sure Xander has some good moments, but he’s a cheater and he totally is awful to Buffy during later seasons when she’s working through major trauma. Welcome, fellow Buffy fans! This community is dedicated to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But Connor is confirmed to be 18, Cordelia told Angel in one episode in season 4. 16 votes, 13 comments. I liked her hair better when it was long like on season 1 and the beginning of season 2. At some point everyone in Sunnydale just comes to the conclusion that Sunnydale is weird. “Look, Buffy, you may be hot stuff when it comes to demonology or whatever, but when it comes to dating, I'm the Slayer. Welcome Angel fans! Cordelia spent most of season 3 trying to turn Groo into Angel. shsytbn gjzhgj cvox kxpdztm dfxw eqa brtna wsefjyb neke hfufxx